Tuesday, October 18, 2005

Helen Vs. McClellan Round #239

Everyone's favorite Old Bat Helen Thomas took a switch to rich kid Scotty McClellan today. It reminds me of this little piece of brilliance I stumbled upon last month.

Turns out we killed 18 kids in a airstrike today and Helen was trying to get some answers from our "err on the side of life" administration. Especially take a good look at Scotty's response at the end... the lines between "us" and "them" are blurring. Perhaps Scotty would care if these people were already dead or at least white.

Q Dispatches from Iraq said that yesterday we killed 70 people in Iraq, near Ramadi, including 18 children. I want to know what the President thinks of that.

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, first of all, I think you need to talk to the military, because the military --

Q No, I'm talking here.

MR. McCLELLAN: Yes, and as I'm responding to you, the military has said otherwise at this point. Now, the military has review mechanisms in place and when there are questions raised, they look into those matters, and so that's something that, obviously, they will look into. But, beyond that, you'd have to talk to the military about where that stands. Now --

Q Eighteen children --

MR. McCLELLAN: -- in terms of our United States military, our military goes out of the way not to target --

Q Why were 18 children killed?

MR. McCLELLAN: Our military goes out of the way not to target innocent civilians.

Q I'm not saying they were targeted --

MR. McCLELLAN: Our military goes out of the way to target the enemy, and to --

Q Why did they say 18 children?

MR. McCLELLAN: -- bring to justice the terrorists and those who are seeking to prevent democracy from taking hold, through violent means, to justice. And that's what our military does. And they do --

Q Seventy people were killed by an air strike.

MR. McCLELLAN: Helen, please let me respond, because I think it's important to point this out when you're bringing up a question like this. We fully support our men and women in uniform. They're doing an outstanding job to defend our freedoms and to help the Iraqi people move forward on a free --

Q I'm not saying -- I'm saying why did they kill 70 people?

MR. McCLELLAN: -- to move forward on a free and peaceful future. I think everybody in this room would like me to have the opportunity to be able to talk to you about this question. And you're assuming things that people have different recollections about right now, or have characterized very differently. And that's why I said the military has review mechanisms in place, when situations like this arise, and they look into those matters. That's why you need to talk to the military, to see where that stands.

Q Are the figures wrong in all the newspapers?

MR. McCLELLAN: The military is looking into the matter, Helen. I don't have any more information at this point.

Q If I could follow on Helen's question, though. Whatever the facts of this particular situation are, war is an inexact business, and children do get killed. And what I think she's asking is for a response from the President about children who may have been killed as a result of American action.

MR. McCLELLAN: Look, I don't want to assume, because this is an incident that's being looked into.

Q I'm not assuming. I'm not assuming.

MR. McCLELLAN: And I want to also make the point -- and I think you can go back and look at this -- yes, war is always the last resort. It's not something that's pleasant. But it is a decision that sometimes the Commander-in-Chief has to make in order to protect the American people. And he made the decision that we were going to go on the offensive in this global war on terrorism that we're engaged in, and that's exactly what we're doing, and that we're going to work to spread freedom and democracy in a part of the world that is in need of hope. And you have to recognize the struggle that we're engaged in.
And there are people in Iraq, terrorists, who recognized how high the stakes are, and they're seeking to do everything they can to stop the democratic process from advancing. And there are attacks carried out on some of our troops. And when those attacks are carried out on our troops, you have others that respond to that. And we appreciate all that our men and women in uniform are doing when it comes to defending our freedoms abroad.

Now, in terms of any innocent people being killed, we mourn the loss of any innocent life that is lost. We have seen that the terrorists have no regard for innocent human life. That's the difference between the enemy and between those in the civilized world who are committed to spreading freedom and peace. We target the enemy; they target innocent civilians. And there's a stark contrast in how we go about waging this war on terrorism. They carry out cowardly acts against innocent civilians. We go after those who seek to do harm to those innocent civilians.


Timothy said...

I live in Florida and I am already a free man except for the civil liberties that are being restricted by the Bush Crime Family.

I dont get how my freedoms ended up in Iraq and why American soldiers have to kill people to get them back.

Giles Weaver said...

There are 100,000 + dead Iraqi civilians that I'm sure would love the priviledge to question the ever sleazy Scott McClellan about his definiton of the "civilized" world. Terrorist tactics that target civilians are abhorrant crimes against humanity, but civilians killed by an F-15 -- a deadly military aircraft -- are no less dead because they were not intentionally targeted.

Here are a couple of questions for Scott: Is it cowardly to use the world's most lethal air force against a population that you are "liberating?" Do we know if they voted YES or NO in the "U.S. backed" rigged election? Can he give specific examples of how freedom and peace are being spread to the Iraqi people that doesn't include a staged corrupt political process? How would he respond to the position that the only "hope" the Middle East has is that we pack up our bags and go home?

The loss of innocent civilians during the course of an ill advised and unpopular military occupation is never pleasant -- especially when the victims are children -- but the cynnical parsing of words by Scott McClellan is a window in the darkest part of the American soul: we don't give a %&$.

Crackpot Press said...

I hear ya both... the thing that really disturbs me is the harrowing emptiness of McClellan's response.

They simply don't care.

Taube said...

We should all be as cool, together, and smart as "the old bat" Helen Thomas is at 85!!! I think she deserves more respect than all the dopes in the Administration put together... and if you're going to do blogs at her expense, treat her right, man... know what I mean?

Crackpot Press said...

We at Crackpot Press use the term of "Old bat" as one of respect and admiration.

Much like we use the term Crackpot the same way.

Sportin' Life said...

...yes, war is always the last resort...

Sure it is. That's why Dick Cheney was on the Sundays talk shows less than one month after 9/11 spreading the lie that Mohammed Atta met with Iraqi intelligence agents.

Terrible said...

Scotty really needs to stop doing everything he can to stop the democratic process from advancing.

Tim said...

I'm sure there was lots of weepin' and mournin' from Bush when he heard about the 18 children killed. Yea, right...

Yogi said...

Can we please ask the Whitehouse press wherever they are to not ask any Question on November 2nd? That would piss them of and we at least have a day without the bullshit thrown about by SS McCLELLAN.

By the way I like America but live outside the puritanical boundaries of the country that’s why I have used the word Bullshit and not BS as here on the outside we have not lost all our rights for free speech and have the FREEDOM to say it as it is.

boboh said...

IMHO Scotty is only doing what he's paid for - being the WH showcase liar. I wish the "reporters" would do their jobs as well - tell us the truth about what is going on. Why any reporter attends the WH briefings is beyond me - they should all boycott them and go to sources of truth instead. Of course, maybe they are hoping to meet Gannon/Guckert again for some fun.

becky said...

The past almost 5 years have been like living inside one long Twilight Zone episode- and it just keeps getting worse! Are these Bush people all evil robots? They all seem to be running on the same program- the same several phrases used over and over again. The same brainless, heartless, greedy, sickness running through them all.

Crackpot Press said...

I think Mel Brooks said it best "These (Roman's) are NUTS..N..V..T..S.. NUTS!